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		<title>My &#8220;how to guide&#8221; on drop catching expired domains</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Mar 2010 00:31:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have been catching dropping domains for a few years now. It&#8217;s often times I see others going through the same struggles I did &#038; this topic takes years to understand. There&#8217;s a lot of myths floating around the forums. First off, the meaning of drop catching, drop catcher is a term to label the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been catching dropping domains for a few years now. It&#8217;s often times I see others going through the same struggles I did &#038; this topic takes years to understand. There&#8217;s a lot of myths floating around the forums.</p>
<p>First off, the meaning of <em>drop catching</em>, <em>drop catcher</em> is a term to label the art of catching an expired domain down to the millisecond. It really is milliseconds for the valuable drops. I&#8217;ll assume that you already know how to calculate when a domain will drop &#038; become available for purchase at any registrar. If you need a source for lists, I recommend estibot or dnmeter.com.</p>
<p>This guide covers my methods &#038; how I perceive the entire system works. It&#8217;s how I understand it &#038; what it does for me. I may stand corrected on some topics, but overall this guide should get the point across.</p>
<p>This guide will not work for the best drops. When a domain like a LLL.COM drops, there will generally be hundreds of watchers / bidders via backorder auctions. Snapnames, Pool &#038; Namejet are notorious for promoting good drops to gather more backorders. This guide will work for domains of medium to lesser quality. For example, many two word domains &#038; other variants go under the radar as dropped &#038; get picked up by drop catchers that have good scanning tools. I have flipped many of these for good money. I have also caught hundreds of LLLL.com &#038; the like. Sometimes you just get lucky too. Math &#038; stats play a role &#038; after you do something and follow a routine for a while, you will get some percent of success.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s get started &#8211; So you&#8217;ve found a good domain in the drop lists. Great! Now what?</p>
<p>You&#8217;ll probably be at stage 1. At this stage, you&#8217;re learning the drop times, learning how to weed out the good drops &#038; etc. You may have a domain registrar that you enjoy purchasing domains from. Well here&#8217;s my notes on the registrars I consider my favorite:</p>
<p><strong>GoDaddy</strong> <em>doesn&#8217;t allow drop catching to my knowledge. Their bulk checkout has a captcha that makes it slow to checkout. Their intentions are for you to backorder a domain through their service.</em><br />
<strong>Moniker</strong> &#8211; <em>Has an API system &#038; the manual checkout pages seem to catch some drops.</em><br />
<strong>Dynadot </strong>- <em>Has an API system &#038; the manual checkout pages seem to catch some drops.</em><br />
<strong>Onlinenic</strong> &#8211; <em>Has an API system &#038; the manual checkout pages DO NOT catch some drops for drop catchers. It&#8217;s too slow. The API is faster</em><br />
<strong>Directi</strong> &#8211; <em>As per their TOS, drop catching is not allowed</em><br />
Name.com -<em> Is working on an API &#038; the checkout pages catch some drops.</em><br />
<strong>ENOM</strong> &#8211; Is selfish &#038; has recently blocked API access for drop catching .com &#038; net during drop time.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s just to name a small handful registrars. I tend to use ALL of the above and more at the same time. You don&#8217;t have to. I have excessive funds at some registrars that haven&#8217;t caught anything for a while. It depends how serious you are &#038; the resources you choose to utilize.</p>
<p>Stage 2</p>
<p>You&#8217;ll find some success trying to hand reg domains &#8211; but will get beaten because others are a wee bit faster than you. You&#8217;ll also find yourself spending a good amount of time researching &#038; trying to drop catch, but maybe at the wrong time.</p>
<p>Stage 3</p>
<p>After burning myself out manually refreshing checkout pages at various registry&#8217;s using laptops &#038; desktop computers, I decided to macro my drop catching. A macro is a script. Every computer has macros pre built into the operating system &#038; products like microsoft office have help tutorials. You can see my tutorial on making <a href="http://www.domainafterlife.com/2009/07/create-an-expired-domains-drop-catching-tool-in-microsoft-office/">drop catching software here</a>.</p>
<p>You&#8217;ll find that automation will soon become your best friend. While you&#8217;re doing other things, you can have robot scripts doing the drop catching work for you.</p>
<p>Stage 4</p>
<p>You&#8217;ll notice that the way domains drop &#8211; they drop in a certain order. This is where you start to target your drop catching since you have an upper advantage. You learn that a single domain stands a better chance than 50 in a bulk checkout.</p>
<p>Stage 5</p>
<p>Since there&#8217;s a scanning solution in place, a drop order &#038; catching automation &#8211; you&#8217;re basically at the furthest point you can get without becoming your own Registrar which costs over $20,000 USD per year &#038; requires you to have serious cash $xxx,xxx+ in a &#8220;trust bank fund&#8221; in case something happens since you&#8217;re liable &#038; a registrar.</p>
<p>To rephrase Phase 2 requires a lot of checkout page refreshes &#038; whois checks &#8211; It will be common to have 2 browser windows or computers side by side because one will be trying to purchase domains while the other checks the whois status of your drops.</p>
<p>In a nutshell, that&#8217;s the stages I went through. I&#8217;d like to also address things I&#8217;ve found to be true out of personal experience.</p>
<p>1.) Domains that have the most backorders require backorder services to put more emphasis on that domain. That&#8217;s why LLL.com&#8217;s that drop always get picked up by the backorder services. They will literally exhaust all their server connections on one domain. If a good name drops &#038; there&#8217;s 0 backorders, it will remain available for minutes. I have seen this.</p>
<p>2.) There is a registrar drop pool. From my understanding, this pool works in batches &#038; it gives registrars a chance to make special calls to verisign. No API can touch this pool &#038; usually the backorder services will compete for the premium drops. This pool supposedly runs seconds &#8211; 1 minute ahead of the drop list. I don&#8217;t really believe this is in place. During a comparison of a LLL.NET drop, I examined it to drop just like any other domain drop in order &#8211; as per dnmeter.com.</p>
<p>3.) Partner registrars will attempt to catch domains for the backorder systems. To my understanding, when the domain drops, it&#8217;s available to anyone &#8211; including you! Don&#8217;t let this term scare you. They usually bump heads &#038; if you are after a domain, you can occasionally beat out the partner registrars.</p>
<p>4.) Dog eat dog &#8211; I have seen trickery going on. From whois changes to the registrar renew a valuable drop while in pending delete. You may notice a drop quickly change hands often. Pretty much anything goes.</p>
<p>5.) Yes, it is possible to beat godaddy, snapnames, pool &#038; namejet at drop catching. The problem is that not enough of us do it to actually put them out of business.</p>
<p>A myth that is floating around:</p>
<p>Myth &#8211; You can never compete with snapnames, pool or namejet. They use thousands of connections. While this is true, the central registry can only accept x connections per registry &#038; everyone still holds a chance. I believe they serialize the connections which then determines who got the domain.</p>
<p>Last time I checked, Snapnames employed between 400 &#8211; 600 registrars that they owned. That number is said to have grown to about 900</p>
<p>Advice &#8211; If you plan to drop catch, it would not be wise to backorder the domains you target. Unless if very valuable &#038; you have the cash to spend, If you backorder domains, it will draw attention to your picks &#038; you will add on more competition.</p>
<p>Advice &#8211; Stealth mode &#038; common sense play a huge role in this game.</p>
<p>Advice &#8211; Instead of trying to catch 25 or 50 domains at once daily, learn the pending delete drop order. Go after only one domain at a time. After it drops, switch flow to the next drop.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a real customer reply I recieved from one of my drop catching titles:</p>
<blockquote><p>Hi Dan,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m happy with the results. I beat oversee domain management today.</p>
<p>Peter</p></blockquote>
<p>Common sense helps a lot too. I&#8217;ve seen drop catchers catch dirt &#038; flip domains while others silently grab the pot of gold. It will take a good understanding of which domains are valuable. Then attempt to compare who grabbed the domains you wanted &#038; learn on how they grabbed the names to make your system better.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a break down of drop times collection I have:</p>
<p>.com 1pm cst 1-2 hours drop window<br />
.net 1pm cst 1-2 hours drop window<br />
.us 1pm cst 10 &#8211; 20 mins drop window<br />
.org 9am cst 30 mins drop window<br />
.info 3am cst &#8211; haven&#8217;t verified in over 1 year<br />
.in 2pm cst 1-2 min drop window<br />
.co.in 2pm cst 1-2 min drop window<br />
.ws 9:30am cst &#8211; haven&#8217;t verified in over 1 year<br />
.mobi 9:30pm cst &#8211; drop lasts 2 mins</p>
<p>Good luck drop catching!</p>
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		<title>IDN Domain Drops Are Catching On &amp; Monetizing</title>
		<link>http://www.domainafterlife.com/2009/09/idn-domain-drops-are-catching-on-monetizing/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 03:10:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#8217;s a new breed of domaining, IDN drop catching &#038; collecting. Is there money in IDN&#8217;s? Heck yeah! It&#8217;s just like re-living the good old .com ASCII domain drop days. Who says everyone MUST type into their browser &#038; visit a domain in ASCII that looks like: GoodyTwoShoes.com? If English is not your native language [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a new breed of domaining, IDN drop catching &#038; collecting. Is there money in IDN&#8217;s? Heck yeah! It&#8217;s just like re-living the good old .com ASCII domain drop days.</p>
<p>Who says everyone MUST type into their browser &#038; visit a domain in ASCII that looks like: GoodyTwoShoes.com?</p>
<p>If English is not your native language &#8211; then why would you be inclined to type things like &#8220;myDomain.com&#8221; only it your browser? Fact is that the world is enormous with all kinds of web surfers from all parts of the world. Yeah, I may be leaking info out &#8211; but there are great, awesome &#038; profitable IDN&#8217;s that monetize well. People actually type or get translated &#038; directed to an IDN domain which lights up their browser. Either way, they will sooner or later reach an IDN domain &#8211; that translates to their language.</p>
<p>For those of you who are new to the term, an IDN domain stands for Internationalized domain. It is not understandable in ASCII &#8211; english letters. IDN&#8217;s are in PUNY CODE translations to ASCII. </p>
<p>Puny code domains resemble english text like this (from tomorrow&#8217;s drop list):</p>
<p>XN&#8211;MGB5CK75C.COM<br />
XN&#8211;HQ1B35E1TKTVH95A.COM<br />
XN&#8211;OO0BR9BN5CRYJRUILZK.COM<br />
XN&#8211;HQ1BR4KG3A4C850A.COM<br />
XN&#8211;HQ1BR4KG3A4C850A.NET<br />
XN&#8211;DCKF2A6A0O2BS7EC7FC5732KBJ2F.COM<br />
XN&#8211;CCK7AW6MXB.NET<br />
XN&#8211;CCK7AW6MXB.COM<br />
XN&#8211;O39A94X9TK72A.NET<br />
XN&#8211;BJ1BP4K1XHEPP.COM<br />
XN&#8211;910B38BB3F.COM<br />
XN&#8211;MF0BP4IW7AG03A92V.COM</p>
<p>IDN&#8217;s always start with &#8220;XN&#8211;&#8221; each domain can actually mean creative things in various languages. I just plucked out the first 10 or so to drop in that order tomorrow. It gives you an understanding of what an IDN is.</p>
<p>I took a visit by Verisign since they have a very useful IDN Conversion Tool. However it lacks the dictionary translation lists.</p>
<p>I am not claiming to be an expert on this topic by any means. Just reporting the success various users are achieving with IDN domain drop catching &#038; my software. It must mean something good.</p>
<p>Various ways you can find buyers for your IDN&#8217;s include:</p>
<p>1.) Forums (reseller market)<br />
2.) End User Contact (putting the domain to use)<br />
3.) It&#8217;s just that good &#038; seeked for (lucky you for finding the gem)<br />
4.) Others in the game may contact you who were also chasing that IDN.</p>
<p>Please do your research. I have not gotten involved with IDN&#8217;s much myself. I wish I had the time to translate each drop into various language codes. Maybe I will soon, you never know. I will report what I catch &#038; flip if I join the fun.</p>
<p>PS &#8211; I may have gotten the terms messed up &#038; etc.. If so, sorry &#8211; again I am not an expert IDN drop catcher.</p>
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		<title>Drop Catching Wish List For Sunday Sept 13th 2009</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Sep 2009 03:59:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am going to try &#038; chase these pending delete expiring domain drops tomorrow: swishier.com succinte.com toolrack.net I&#8217;m not too convinced they&#8217;re worth much, but you never know. I will update my blog with my success or no-success. And if I backout from regging toolrack.net. The .com is a parked page :S &#8211; I just [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am going to try &#038; chase these pending delete expiring domain drops tomorrow:</p>
<p>swishier.com<br />
succinte.com<br />
toolrack.net</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not too convinced they&#8217;re worth much, but you never know. I will update my blog with my success or no-success. And if I backout from regging toolrack.net. The .com is a parked page :S &#8211; I just felt it sounded cool.</p>
<p>Swishier &#038; Succinte may have some type of traffic flow &#038; typo potential imho. It&#8217;s the best of the bunch that I could chase &#038; feel comfortable catching. We&#8217;ll see what happens in the next 12 hrs or so.</p>
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		<title>Drop Catcher Software Sales Is Sky Rocketing&#8230;</title>
		<link>http://www.domainafterlife.com/2009/08/drop-catcher-software-sales-is-sky-rocketing/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 04:29:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks to everyone. I am really pleased to announce that drop catching software sales have been sky rocketing. I really owe it to word of mouth &#038; in part to this blog. From my point of view, it&#8217;s really cool that I can develop tools that you find useful &#038; make you money. While snapnames [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks to everyone.</p>
<p>I am really pleased to announce that drop catching software sales have been sky rocketing. I really owe it to word of mouth &#038; in part to this blog.</p>
<p>From my point of view, it&#8217;s really cool that I can develop tools that you find useful &#038; make you money. While snapnames may be an army of their own, us private drop catchers are the Delta Force <img src='http://www.domainafterlife.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  in pending delete drop catching.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s cool to interact with drop catchers from all around the world through the software I developed &#038; keep making it better for a proactive party of drop catchers.</p>
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		<title>Drop Catching Report For August 12th</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 00:10:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here&#8217;s the domains I was able to catch today on the drop: flunkys.com lushy.net wobbly.us shortened.us motley.us It suprises me that Directi captured: shes.net today. Awesome! I am going to re-visit my Directi API drop catching scripts &#38; see if I can make some magic.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s the domains I was able to catch today on the drop:</p>
<p>flunkys.com<br />
lushy.net<br />
wobbly.us<br />
shortened.us<br />
motley.us</p>
<p>It suprises me that Directi captured: shes.net today. Awesome! I am going to re-visit my Directi API drop catching scripts &amp; see if I can make some magic.</p>
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		<title>My Drop Catching Wish List for Today</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 17:32:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am going to chase 3 domain names today. It&#8217;s pretty stupid for me to chase these as I know for a fact they have been backordered. The domains I will be going after are 3 Letter .US drops. I&#8217;ve made my list &#38; will shortly be going after these domains: gmv.us qub.us wrt.us All [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am going to chase 3 domain names today. It&#8217;s pretty stupid for me to chase these as I know for a fact they have been backordered. The domains I will be going after are 3 Letter .US drops. I&#8217;ve made my list &amp; will shortly be going after these domains:</p>
<p>gmv.us<br />
qub.us<br />
wrt.us</p>
<p>All 3 are in pending delete &amp; will be dropping in around 35 minutes.</p>
<p>Wish me luck, but I really doubt that I will be able to catch any of these drops. If I do manage to even catch one, I will be a happy camper &amp; it will make my weekend!</p>
<p>However, the sun is bound to shine on</p>
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		<title>My Drop Catching Report For Today.</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 20:11:16 +0000</pubDate>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I can&#8217;t complain too much. I went after 3 domains &amp; I captured 2. These two domains I feel are mediocre and should have some fair resell value. The 2 domains I grabbed today were:</p>
<p><em>skews.net &amp; insulting.us.</em></p>
<p>The domain I didn&#8217;t get was: <em>weedkillers.net</em> &#8211; No biggie as I really didn&#8217;t want the domain. I felt it has some potential, but it is limited potential. Maybe for lawn and garden, green lawn &amp; fertilizing compaines.</p>
<p>I have to admit that it felt pretty good today, catching these drops. I am sure others also went for the same domains &amp; failed since I grabbed the two drops above.</p>
<p>On a lighter note, I am also glad that BuyDomains.com grabbed weedkillers.net. It goes to show that I must be doing something right!</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the new whois:</p>
<p>Domain Name: <strong>WEEDKILLERS.NET</strong></p>
<p>Administrative Contact, Technical Contact, Zone Contact:<br />
RareNames, WebReg<br />
738 Main Street, #389<br />
Waltham, MA 02451<br />
US<br />
(781)839-7993<br />
(781)839-2801 [fax]<br />
brokerage@buydomains.com</p>
<p>Domain created on 29-Jul-2009<br />
Domain expires on 29-Jul-2010<br />
Last updated on 29-Jul-2009</p>
<p>Domain servers in listed order:</p>
<p>NS.BUYDOMAINS.COM<br />
THIS-DOMAIN-FOR-SALE.COM</p>
<p>I will catch everyone a little later. It&#8217;s time for me to flip my catches into a nice chunk of change.</p>
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