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Free Limited Experiment On A New Tool I Am Making

admin — Sun, 11 Sep 2011 00:59:15 +0000

Hello everyone,

I am working on a new tool and would like to offer it for free for a limited time to readers of my blog. This tool is very simple & basically takes a list of up to 22,000 usa cities. It combines a keyword with a city before or after the keyword. Some examples would be:

chicagodentists.com
rentchicago.com
chicagoforeclosures.com

On & on.. The value of this tool is that you get to specify the keyword(s) & position. The end result would be a list of domains where .NET is taken & .COM is available. Allowing you to hand register the .com domain if you so chose to register the available.

I love crunching numbers & scripts & have found some decent domains this way. Some I have been able to flip for a profit rather quickly. I also notice that the .org & .info is often times registered. Other times, the same scan 3 months later has also generates new gems.

Just putting this out there & any feedback is welcome in regards to a tool you’d like to see out there. I have extra time in my hands & I can probably make it a reality. I’m looking to expand my tools selection & love automating as much of my busy work as possible.

Dynadot Offers A Backorder Service. News To Me.

admin — Sat, 18 Jun 2011 01:10:31 +0000

This struck me out of the blue a couple days ago. I was visiting Dynadot.com & checking out the marketplace domains. I noticed something new, which seemed to be a pending delete tab which allowed me to backorder domains @ $11.75 USD a pop. I noticed that they have listed the entire pending delete lists & it was easy to place backorders on any domain of my choosing.

I backordered domains & was satisfied with with ease in it all. I also learned that when placing a backorder, you win the domain for only $11.75 if you are the only bidder. If there are multiple bidders on the same domain & Dynadot’s backorder service cathes the name, then you enter into a private auction with the other bidders.

As of writing the website states:

1.) You will not be charged until we successfully catch this domain for you. 2.) In order to place a backorder, you need an order history with one successful payment in the last 365 days. A completed prepay order will fulfill this requirement. 3.) If you are the only one request for this domain, an order will be created in your account using your default marketplace payment method once we successfully catch the domain 4.) If there is more than one request for this domain, a private auction will be held if we successfully catch the domain

I decided to give this a try & on purpose tried to chase some of the competition & premium drops. Very ignorant in my part, but I had nothing to lose. Especially since there were 0 backorders for the drops I decided to chase. I gave it a whirl & chased these drops today:

celn.com
pangtuan.com
bgjp.com
hhoz.com
qlzz.com

I noticed that the cutoff time for the backorders is up to approx 15 mins before the drops actually become released from the registry. This is nice for any last minute change of mind adds or removals. It’s also very easy to remove backorders from your account with a click of a button before the cutoff time.

So off went the experiment & as the drops became available, well – as you may have guessed, Dynadot didn’t catch any of these drops. Instead the regulars as in SnapNames overall crushed the drop catches.

I guess this service would be great for mid-grade domains that don’t catch alot of attention. Or targetted niche, service or product long tail domains that go unnoticed by the big fish. Still a great service for Dynadot to offer to it’s customers & I hope they keep building on with more real-time registrar connections.

Overall these are the pro’s and con’s in my opinion:

Pros:

1.) It’s a very easy to use system for entering backorder domains & tracking the progress.
2.) If you are the only one to backorder a domain, you win it for only $11.75.
3.) Dynadot is a trusted & respected company for never doing their customers wrong.
4.) Their support actually tries to accommodate things to fit your needs.

Cons:

1.) The number of total backorders is publicly displayed. Bigger drop catch companies can scrape this data & apply more horsepower to chase domains that grab backorder attention @ Dynadot.
2.) Dynadot needs to increase their price & drop catch capacity with more registrar connections to make this profitable for itself & it’s customers.
3.) I could not find documentation regarding – what if someone catches the domain using Dynadot’s API system. Who wins the domain then? It’s not technically a backorder – is the domain surrendered to the API account & the backorders are rejected? Or vice, versa?

Overall I am a big supporter of this system & would like to see how this pans out for Dynadot. Dynadot has been my preferred registrar of choice for many years now & I hope you find success with this new backorder service I stumbled across recently.

Determine Your Enduser Price. Not Wholesale Or Domainer to Domainer

admin — Wed, 11 May 2011 04:28:48 +0000

Hello,

Everyone and their mom can sell something. But can you sell a domain name? YES.. But can you sell a domain name at the true value that an end user looking to buy your website url(s) may pay you?

Behind all that happens between a domain transfer, there are a few things to keep in mind. I think these variables are the hardest to face on a double blind end user sale. Us often considered squatters & cyber criminals have steady income in assigning names to the right people.

From dealing in selling my own domain names, I have found that:

First off, you have no real idea of what your prospect buyer will pay for your domain, website url, site etc – whatever they call it. You know your inventory & have to make a decision. Do you leave money on the table for a quick sale or do you start high up & lower your prices down?

I like to play it by ear & listen to my gut feelings. I am not out to exploit a domain name sale – but I also have been leaving a lot of money on the table following old domainer methods. The old advice that dashes don’t matter & .net is crap. Now my end user buyers are asking for .net – .network domains & Dashes “Hyphen” domains make sense. While I wouldn’t want to put the house for sale on Domain investing – there is a medium:

A.) What do I really want in the form of cash or trade for the website url’s I own?

B.) What will my buyer pay me? How can he use this website? How does it benefit him or her?

C.) Ok, I am ready for the B. sale above. However, can I perhaps make a little more cash if the buyer was someone else?

I can say that I am on both ends of the deal. On some sales I have been really shy & sold a regfee domain for $2K+ & during other times, I have sold a perfect match to an end user for $10 or so thinking it was crap.

This post is mainly to motivate everyone in their domain assests. Hope is out there & it’s near. You just need to be very motivated. Get off your chair, pick up the phone, call end users & sell your website url’s. Visit nearby places that can put your domain to use. You’d be surprised what you can get. Let endusers use the domains that fit a clear purpose for their needs.

To add something more into the list is this variable:

D.) Learn to negotiate better & understand your buyers. Leaving money on the table can be intense, and realistic for your current goals, but think ahead fast & that money is lost. An example was recent where I received interest in one of domains. The offer was $400. I felt the domain was worth over $1,000. I counter offered with $500. I lost the sale.

On D.) Above, I am glad I lost the sale. The domain name was actually: PayGram.com. I actually had plans to develop the domain & make an exchange site for various 3rd party services like paypal & moneybookers to unify a payment. I guess most anyone reading this would have taken the $400 cash via paypal. Lesson learned for other domains in my portfolio – but I keep the same plans for paygram in the near future.

To end this off, I will conclude by saying that you do end up getting out what you put in daily. Don’t lose hope. Keep reaching out further & further. Use as many Excel formula’s & web research you can to find the right buyers for your domains. When there is an opportunity – invest your time in your sales to flip this virtual real estate which is as real (or worth more) than real real estate.

I hate to admit this – but at the end, feel free to raise your prices a little. I have been known to be too generous & your competition will eat you up. If you don’t land the solid sale on your domain name – then then potential buyer will find something else or another to work for them.

Glad to be back posting on my blog after 1 year & 1 month away due to building development stuff. These end user sales are keeping me away from taking on further development stuff & concentrating on matching the perfect domain for more people who can put them to use. It’s become my new dream job.

Dan

My “how to guide” on drop catching expired domains

admin — Sat, 27 Mar 2010 00:31:40 +0000

I have been catching dropping domains for a few years now. It’s often times I see others going through the same struggles I did & this topic takes years to understand. There’s a lot of myths floating around the forums.

First off, the meaning of drop catching, drop catcher is a term to label the art of catching an expired domain down to the millisecond. It really is milliseconds for the valuable drops. I’ll assume that you already know how to calculate when a domain will drop & become available for purchase at any registrar. If you need a source for lists, I recommend estibot or dnmeter.com.

This guide covers my methods & how I perceive the entire system works. It’s how I understand it & what it does for me. I may stand corrected on some topics, but overall this guide should get the point across.

This guide will not work for the best drops. When a domain like a LLL.COM drops, there will generally be hundreds of watchers / bidders via backorder auctions. Snapnames, Pool & Namejet are notorious for promoting good drops to gather more backorders. This guide will work for domains of medium to lesser quality. For example, many two word domains & other variants go under the radar as dropped & get picked up by drop catchers that have good scanning tools. I have flipped many of these for good money. I have also caught hundreds of LLLL.com & the like. Sometimes you just get lucky too. Math & stats play a role & after you do something and follow a routine for a while, you will get some percent of success.

Let’s get started – So you’ve found a good domain in the drop lists. Great! Now what?

You’ll probably be at stage 1. At this stage, you’re learning the drop times, learning how to weed out the good drops & etc. You may have a domain registrar that you enjoy purchasing domains from. Well here’s my notes on the registrars I consider my favorite:

GoDaddy doesn’t allow drop catching to my knowledge. Their bulk checkout has a captcha that makes it slow to checkout. Their intentions are for you to backorder a domain through their service.
Moniker – Has an API system & the manual checkout pages seem to catch some drops.
Dynadot - Has an API system & the manual checkout pages seem to catch some drops.
Onlinenic – Has an API system & the manual checkout pages DO NOT catch some drops for drop catchers. It’s too slow. The API is faster
Directi – As per their TOS, drop catching is not allowed
Name.com - Is working on an API & the checkout pages catch some drops.
ENOM – Is selfish & has recently blocked API access for drop catching .com & net during drop time.

That’s just to name a small handful registrars. I tend to use ALL of the above and more at the same time. You don’t have to. I have excessive funds at some registrars that haven’t caught anything for a while. It depends how serious you are & the resources you choose to utilize.

Stage 2

You’ll find some success trying to hand reg domains – but will get beaten because others are a wee bit faster than you. You’ll also find yourself spending a good amount of time researching & trying to drop catch, but maybe at the wrong time.

Stage 3

After burning myself out manually refreshing checkout pages at various registry’s using laptops & desktop computers, I decided to macro my drop catching. A macro is a script. Every computer has macros pre built into the operating system & products like microsoft office have help tutorials. You can see my tutorial on making drop catching software here.

You’ll find that automation will soon become your best friend. While you’re doing other things, you can have robot scripts doing the drop catching work for you.

Stage 4

You’ll notice that the way domains drop – they drop in a certain order. This is where you start to target your drop catching since you have an upper advantage. You learn that a single domain stands a better chance than 50 in a bulk checkout.

Stage 5

Since there’s a scanning solution in place, a drop order & catching automation – you’re basically at the furthest point you can get without becoming your own Registrar which costs over $20,000 USD per year & requires you to have serious cash $xxx,xxx+ in a “trust bank fund” in case something happens since you’re liable & a registrar.

To rephrase Phase 2 requires a lot of checkout page refreshes & whois checks – It will be common to have 2 browser windows or computers side by side because one will be trying to purchase domains while the other checks the whois status of your drops.

In a nutshell, that’s the stages I went through. I’d like to also address things I’ve found to be true out of personal experience.

1.) Domains that have the most backorders require backorder services to put more emphasis on that domain. That’s why LLL.com’s that drop always get picked up by the backorder services. They will literally exhaust all their server connections on one domain. If a good name drops & there’s 0 backorders, it will remain available for minutes. I have seen this.

2.) There is a registrar drop pool. From my understanding, this pool works in batches & it gives registrars a chance to make special calls to verisign. No API can touch this pool & usually the backorder services will compete for the premium drops. This pool supposedly runs seconds – 1 minute ahead of the drop list. I don’t really believe this is in place. During a comparison of a LLL.NET drop, I examined it to drop just like any other domain drop in order – as per dnmeter.com.

3.) Partner registrars will attempt to catch domains for the backorder systems. To my understanding, when the domain drops, it’s available to anyone – including you! Don’t let this term scare you. They usually bump heads & if you are after a domain, you can occasionally beat out the partner registrars.

4.) Dog eat dog – I have seen trickery going on. From whois changes to the registrar renew a valuable drop while in pending delete. You may notice a drop quickly change hands often. Pretty much anything goes.

5.) Yes, it is possible to beat godaddy, snapnames, pool & namejet at drop catching. The problem is that not enough of us do it to actually put them out of business.

A myth that is floating around:

Myth – You can never compete with snapnames, pool or namejet. They use thousands of connections. While this is true, the central registry can only accept x connections per registry & everyone still holds a chance. I believe they serialize the connections which then determines who got the domain.

Last time I checked, Snapnames employed between 400 – 600 registrars that they owned. That number is said to have grown to about 900

Advice – If you plan to drop catch, it would not be wise to backorder the domains you target. Unless if very valuable & you have the cash to spend, If you backorder domains, it will draw attention to your picks & you will add on more competition.

Advice – Stealth mode & common sense play a huge role in this game.

Advice – Instead of trying to catch 25 or 50 domains at once daily, learn the pending delete drop order. Go after only one domain at a time. After it drops, switch flow to the next drop.

Here’s a real customer reply I recieved from one of my drop catching titles:

Hi Dan,

I’m happy with the results. I beat oversee domain management today.

Peter

Common sense helps a lot too. I’ve seen drop catchers catch dirt & flip domains while others silently grab the pot of gold. It will take a good understanding of which domains are valuable. Then attempt to compare who grabbed the domains you wanted & learn on how they grabbed the names to make your system better.

Here’s a break down of drop times collection I have:

.com 1pm cst 1-2 hours drop window
.net 1pm cst 1-2 hours drop window
.us 1pm cst 10 – 20 mins drop window
.org 9am cst 30 mins drop window
.info 3am cst – haven’t verified in over 1 year
.in 2pm cst 1-2 min drop window
.co.in 2pm cst 1-2 min drop window
.ws 9:30am cst – haven’t verified in over 1 year
.mobi 9:30pm cst – drop lasts 2 mins

Good luck drop catching!

Some catchable .net dictionary drops on the way

admin — Tue, 06 Oct 2009 04:20:13 +0000

Here’s a simple list I compiled that contains many 1 word dictionary .net drops. These will drop on Tuesday Oct 6th 1pm CST / 2pm PST / EST. There’s no need to backorder any of these domains in my opinion – if you’re fast enough, sometimes slow enough, the domains can be easily captured by hand without the frenzy to backorder or get arthritis from clicking the “checkout” button too many times.

recalling.net
concordat.net
distinguishes.net
naumachia.net
deodorization.net
uncommenced.net
figurize.net
unexercised.net
nonmechanical.net
intempestivity.net
balatong.net
cumic.net
oraler.net
zollie.net
perched.net
preferring.net
severely.net
myringotomy.net
arched.net
coldness.net
narrower.net
supplementing.net
hardmouthed.net
lactone.net
glorify.net
reinforces.net
glittered.net
joyously.net
digitally.net
morganize.net
pictury.net
retrofire.net
deign.net
recheck.net
dragontail.net
ramseys.net
livys.net
nogas.net
lakelander.net
unisulcate.net
granivorous.net
persists.net
unestablished.net
gestured.net

Since they’re .net’s sometimes the names don’t get taken at all, or hours later pass before getting snatched up by the traffic tasters.

I’m not too turned on by most of these expiring .net drops, but I am going to monitor them. Out of all the digging around & lookups, the .com drops didn’t look too apealing for tomorrow. It’s been a while since I’ve seen a bunch of .net 1 word dictionaries drop at the same time. Maybe I’m not paying attention in the right spots. For some domainers .net seems to lives on as the economy re-establishes itself.

Keep in mind as well that sometimes .com 1 word dictionarys drop too & can be hand regged the same way these .net’s are dropping. You just have to be fast & try to set your standards / profit margins / attention for end user sales.

Try to set your standard appropriately – not too low that you are wasting hard earned money on hand regs that suck with zero resell value, But more so like picking the gems from the rough. They’re in there for you to snatch & profit from.

I recommend you checkout: www.savespell.com they provide free comprehensive lists. They put my lame lists to shame because they have a dependable public service. The various filters help too for instant filtering & monitoring.

Anyways, I hope you enjoy the .net drop list.

LLLL.COM On Sale Now. Buy It Now Price $15,000

admin — Sun, 06 Sep 2009 22:05:35 +0000

The domain name: LLLL.com is for sale in the high priced domain section of NamePros.

This domain is nice if you’re into 4 Letter .com’s. Back in 2006 & 2007, the whois stated that the asking price was $100,000.

Times are changing however & I am seeing many LLLL.com’s sitting available. I think Reece (the owner of LLLL.com) is doing the right thing by trying to sell his domain now. As more & more LLLL.com’s are re-dropping & NOT getting picked up, the value of LLLL.com is diminishing.

Back in 2002, all the LLLL.com’s were bought out. Then in 2003 – 2004 a good percent were available again. As history repeats it self – again in late 2007 the LLLL.com buyout occurred again. Now in 2009 we’re seeing more & more LLLL.com’s available for hand reg again.

Definitely an cool domain & with the trends, a lot of visitors to come. A lot of domainers visit the site / blog frequently. Although the blog doesn’t specialize in LLLL.com topics – it is a central hub domainers frequent regulary.

If you’re interested, you should offer a bid at NP – or contact Reece himself.

Had To Disable Some Of My Domaining Websites

admin — Tue, 01 Sep 2009 04:21:20 +0000

Sorry folks,

As some of you may have noticed, I had to disable some of my domaining websites. The favorites to go down were:

DNMeter.com & AntiqueDrops.com

The time & effort to develop these tools became exhaustive. The last somewhat “nice remark” I received about DNMeter was: that it was 30 minutes “off” – I do believe I added a disclaimer & others reinforced it by admitting that sometimes Verisign takes a break or delays even speeds up the drop order pointer for pending deletes becoming available for hand reg.

Perhaps there will be a better service in the works that combines the above.

End User Genie Test Run On My Domain: Motley.us

admin — Thu, 13 Aug 2009 04:41:09 +0000

Tonight, I have been working more on that “End User” Genie design I was talking about. While, I admitted in a previous post that I am not a good designer – I am filling that void by making a better “script”.

Today, I was able to acquire the domain motley.us. I instantly started to search & scan business lists manually. Then the lightbulb came on. Wait a minute! EUG (end user genie) can do this for me!

I popped in motley.us & here is what I got back:

Web Results for motley

Fool.com   the motley fool
Motley.com   motley.com // crue fest 2
ShopMotley.com   welcome to boston’s best little store: motley
MotleyRice.com/   law firm of motley rice llc – legal services
Answers.com/topic/willard-motley   willard motley: biography from answers.com
Answers.com/topic/john-lothrop-motley   john lothrop motley: biography from answers.com
Topix.com/city/motley-mn   motley news – topixcomics.com   motley classics free online comic strip library at comics.com
MotleysGroup.com   home page | motley’s auction group

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Domain Appraisals – It Can Work Both Ways!

admin — Tue, 11 Aug 2009 00:23:48 +0000

The Domain Appraisal – Both Sides Of The Coin.

Everyone is well aware of the domain appraisal “scam” where you can fall victim if you are a domain owner. Basically what happens is a person, or group of people will do bulk whois lookups. Then they harvest a simple list of:

Domain | eMail in whois

expron.com |
So on..

Then they use bulk mailers to send you emails that sound lik ethey are interested in your domain name. They then offer to get your domain appraised. They will list out 2 or so appraisal services & price. Usually it will ask for an appraisal at sedo.com or . If you really really want to sell your domain, you could very easily fall victim.

Blah Blah, you all have heard that story..

Here’s my story on the coin flip of the domain appraisal scam.

Back in 2008, I was searching dictionary domain words that were up & running sites in .com & .net. Long story short, I found that when I inquired about certain domains, I would get an appraisal. Some LL.com domains would hand me a PDF appraisal for $250,000 – $750,000. Most were from real appriasal companies. I did my homework & found that these companies cater to high end domains etc..

So my journey continued. Finally I hit a soft sale. It’s my terminology for something that I felt was do-able & withing my budget. In other words, move fast & buy this domain!

The domain in question was Delete<.>net. The owner, Jim from California had originally registered the domain back in 1996. He was an ISP provider & knew everything about computer network backbones. He lacked however the knowledge of domaining.

Things were going great.. He asked me to make him an offer. Being a domainer myself, I offered high $xxx. He quickly got excited & I almost closed the deal. He asked to “think” about it overnight. I said no problems & awaited his email.

The next day, his friend got into his head & now the minimum cash sale for delete<.>net jumped up to $1,500 min, preferably $2,500. Now I was trying to stand ground on my $850 – $999 offer. But in a heartbeat, I was snuffed as he surfed the web & try to educate himself if the sale was worth it. I had no leverage, nothing.

So now, I had to contact him. I had to contact him a couple times. After a while, Jim replies.. I am getting a godaddy appraisal & it will be ready in 48 hours.

The appraisal comes in & it’s estimating the domain Delete<.>net is worth $17,290.00

Darn, there went all my hope. I was lucky to be able to harness the opportunity I had opened. The seller was expecting $17K for his domain. The best I could do was broker the domain. I aligned the sale with Kellie from Name.com. She paid Mid $x,xxx. It was a private sale & my Commision was mid $xxx

So I guess everyone got what they wanted. Except me, had I secured the domain for $900 or so as originally planned, I could have easily flipped it & kept mid $x,xxx for free. So in this story, the godaddy appraisal killed me. It would be nice to think that the domain was worth seventeen thousand, but it’s not. It’s also my mistake for the low offer.

A couple things that stick out is that at the time, I wasn’t really active at the forums. And the offers I got from forum people even those with high post counts was ridiculous.

I got remarks at the forums like:

If it was .com, it would be worth a lot more! .
If it was a happy domain like: Smile.net, Laugh.net, happy.net.. I would be interested.
The domain is not worth anything. I offer from $20 – $1,000 24 hour time capsule.
The domain will never sell for more than $500.

Guess I proved them wrong

It was worth it to me as well as I continue to get in good with Name.com, developing their API stuff & tools for their domain registrations. Also, Jim is a good ISP resource for me – If I would ever need help from a veteran.

Just be careful in these appraisals as it seems to inflate what the seller “thinks” his domain is worth. Until you try to sell, he/she won’t know.

Using Antique Drop Data To Find Gems & Follow Domaining Trends

admin — Fri, 07 Aug 2009 01:34:14 +0000

As I have written before – I started up the domain: AntiqueDrops.com. Mostly it was a project that started off as a way to find antique expired domains. Especially expired domains with traffic and valid google pagerank. Well the project has really taken me by surprise. I am convinced that by simply creating an organized and searchable index of antique drop data – I can register valuable domains.

The secret lies a few main things. One being that all the info packed into the database consists of drop data that someone once regged & it dropped. Second being that the older the data is, the quality of the drops gets better. Older dropped domains just make a lot of sense. If you compare today’s junky drop lists with those of years ago you will see what I mean. The aged drop lists now are full of available domains that were just forgotten about.

Years ago, domains would simply just “drop”. There was no DRT software or domainers checking stats on the drops. There’s old drops that still get traffic! There’s also many that sound great and still hold value.

I am noticing domaining trends in registering domains and the drops. Mostly just popular phrases back on 2003 & with history and events. These trends relate to domaining because as of around late 2006, there was a surge to purchase domains that started with the letters: “DN”. Before ’06 there was not a lot of domains which began with “DN” – Example: DNStuff, DNSales similar examples. This trend to this day has been a domainer’s favorite. Other trends include spikes in bingo & lotto related sites (as laws changed I imagine), news, events and celebrity figures in the news. To wrap up my trends topic, the biggest trend has been post 2002. Pre 2002 has quality drop lists & data. After 2002, there has been a huge spike consistently growing of garbage registrations and drops.

Here’s some sample data I have collected. I have not been drop catching the live pending delete domains lately because I am acquiring domain names via historical drop data. Here’s an example:

For this example, I am searching only up to 4 years ago. I am also searching aggressivly. I am only interested in .com domains which must contain words, no numbers or hyphens. The search pattern I am using is the domain must start with – keyword: “Domain”.

The results are as follows. These names caught my eye & are available for hand reg:

Sorted By: Domain Name, Drop Date, Status & Days since each domain has been available.

DomainAffiliation.com     11-Oct-2008    Available     299 days
DomainBackLink.com     13-Oct-2008    Available     297 days
DomainBarracuda.com     16-Feb-2007    Available     902 days
DomainBuds.com        07-Jan-2009       Available    211 days
DomainClustering.com    03-Jan-2006    Available    1311 days
DomainClutch.com    14-Jul-2006    Available    1119 days
DomainCriminals.com     21-Jul-2006    Available     1112 days
DomainerChoice.com    24-Jan-2009    Available    194 days
DomainerGlossary.com    06-Jan-2009    Available    212 days
DomainingSmarts.com     10-Oct-2008    Available     300 days
DomainMonolopy.com     02-Jul-2007    Available     766 days

So there you go. Imagine mixing around various keywords like Forex, Mortgage & Money.. So on.. the keyword combinations are endless to find great available domains. The best thing is that someone already did all the work for you – Someone at one point has owned the domains at AntiqueDrops & dropped them.

Have fun with your domain acquisitions.